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LGAV
Spata-Artemida, Greece
Runway 03L
Elevation276 ft asl
Weight3,090 kg
Fuel285 kg
Wind70° · 12 kn · 7 kn cross

Flight Score

68.93 %
LGAV
Spata-Artemida, Greece
Runway 21R
Elevation276 ft asl
Weight3,076 kg
Fuel271 kg
Wind70° · 12 kn · 7 kn cross
5 Dec 2024 0:05 9 nm Grumman Goose 14 kg
Departure Score
77.85 %
Enroute Score
88.96 %
Arrival Score
39.97 %

What went well

Rollout controlled — 15 % of the runway used
Airborne in 698 m — 22 % of the runway

What held you back

Arrival Landing — Threshold speed was excessively high at 155 kn at 0 %, Heading variation -3.0 ° at 0 %, −6.69 points
Arrival Touchdown — Speed at touchdown 124 kn at 0 %, bank angle up to 27.1 ° at 0 %, −5.34 points
Arrival Final 1 — gear not down; Heading variation -0.9 ° at 0 %, bank angle up to 48.1 ° at 0 %, −4.17 points

Next time

Shorten the long landing

See Arrival Touchdown

Ground effect becomes significant below about one wingspan of height. A Cessna 172, with a 36 ft span, enters ground effect at flare height - the float it feels in the hold-off is ground effect arriving on cue. An A320, with a span around 117 ft, has been in ground effect since before the threshold and there is no sudden cushion to feel, only a gradual reduction in induced drag that lengthens any float you allow.

Read more in Flare Timing

Start to finish · 12 stages, 10 in the score

The flight story

The approach before the go-around was abandoned. Its marks are shown, but only the approach that landed counts.

Departure One segment per stage, in flight order — colour is the score band. Drag the bar to move along the flight, or click a stage card to open its detail. Arrival
Departure Roll 54.83Departure roll runway 03L at LGAV Athens Eleftherios Venizelos International Airport. Takeoff distance 698 m 22 % of runway. Liftoff speed was 84 kn. Local weather - Temperature 16 °C. Wind 14 kn at 70 °. Crosswind: 7 kn Headwind: 11 kn.
ScoreDescriptionStartProfileEnd
100 % Takeoff distance 698 m22 % of runway
99 % Liftoff speed was 84 knTarget 75 kn
0 % Runway alignment max 96.94 m0.00 m left to 96.94 m right -96.94 -16.22 m
100 % Average g force 0.97 g0.85 g min to max 1.12 g 0.99 1.07 g
0 % Takeoff Bounce
Info Average pitch angle 7.5 °1.7 ° min to max 10.5 ° 9.0 7.6 °
Info Average bank angle 2.4 °0.2 ° min to max 5.6 ° 0.3 3.2 °

Events

Fail Landing Lights
Info Navigation Lights Switched On 4 ft agl · 10 kt
Info Strobe Lights Switched On 4 ft agl · 10 kt
Info Pitot Heat Switched On 4 ft agl · 10 kt
Info Parking Brake Off 4 ft agl · 10 kt
Departure Climb 1 90.48Departure climb to 50 ft agl from runway 03L LGAV Athens Eleftherios Venizelos International Airport.
ScoreDescriptionStartProfileEnd
97 % Heading variation 0.2 °-0.7 ° min to max 1.2 ° 1.2 -0.7 °
100 % Average speed 109 kn84 kn min to max 126 kn 84 125 kn
66 % Average bank angle 4.5 °0.0 ° min to max 15.1 ° 2.9 6.1 °
98 % Average g force 1.02 g0.71 g min to max 1.58 g 1.06 1.11 g
Info Average VSI 657 ft/m344 ft/m min to max 944 ft/m 344 944 ft/m
Info Average altitude 9 ft agl0 ft agl min to max 58 ft agl 0 58 ft agl
Info Average pitch angle 3.7 °-0.0 ° min to max 8.2 ° 7.5 8.0 °
Departure Climb 2 92.29Departure climb to 400 ft agl from 03L LGAV Athens Eleftherios Venizelos International Airport.
ScoreDescriptionStartProfileEnd
96 % Heading variation -0.9 °-2.4 ° min to max -0.7 ° -0.7 -2.4 °
100 % Average speed 123 kn117 kn min to max 126 kn 125 117 kn
74 % Average bank angle 7.0 °0.6 ° min to max 12.0 ° 6.1 12.0 °
100 % Average g force 1.07 g0.63 g min to max 1.12 g 1.12 1.01 g
Info Average VSI 1,246 ft/m876 ft/m min to max 2,109 ft/m 954 2,109 ft/m
Info Average altitude 121 ft agl59 ft agl min to max 401 ft agl 59 401 ft agl
Info Average pitch angle 8.9 °5.0 ° min to max 13.1 ° 8.0 13.1 °

Events

Info Landing Gear Up 128 ft agl · 125 kt
Info Bounce during liftoff 257 ft agl · 121 kt
Departure Climb 3 73.79Departure climb to 1,000 ft agl from 03L LGAV Athens Eleftherios Venizelos International Airport.
ScoreDescriptionStartProfileEnd
0 % Heading variation -8.5 °-12.2 ° min to max -3.2 ° -3.2 -12.2 °
100 % Average speed 121 kn113 kn min to max 130 kn 116 116 kn
69 % Average bank angle 2.2 °0.1 ° min to max 13.8 ° 13.8 2.8 °
100 % Average g force 0.99 g0.53 g min to max 1.29 g 1.01 0.99 g
100 % Landing gear up
Info Average VSI 343 ft/m-1,536 ft/m min to max 2,134 ft/m 2,134 177 ft/m
Info Average altitude 732 ft agl436 ft agl min to max 931 ft agl 436 731 ft agl
Info Average pitch angle 4.3 °-5.0 ° min to max 13.3 ° 13.3 4.5 °
Enroute Level 93.09Enroute level cruise started 1 mile south of Pikermi (Attica, Greece) and lasted 2 minutes, covering 2 nm.
ScoreDescriptionStartProfileEnd
100 % Average altitude 861 ft asl722 ft asl min to max 1,063 ft asl 1,000 826 ft asl
100 % Average speed 111 kn102 kn min to max 133 kn 116 102 kn
100 % Average bank angle 5.0 °0.1 ° min to max 18.4 ° 4.3 4.4 °
31 % Average g force 0.99 g-1.92 g min to max 1.52 g 1.00 0.95 g
Info Turn coordination 00 min to max 0 0 0
Info Average pitch angle 6.6 °-25.5 ° min to max 15.2 ° 4.3 12.4 °
Enroute Climb 84.84Enroute climb started overhead Pikermi (Attica, Greece). Climbing from 826 ft asl to 745 ft asl, an increase of 81 ft in 3 minutes and covering 3 nm.
ScoreDescriptionStartProfileEnd
100 % Average speed 127 kn93 kn min to max 187 kn 102 163 kn
82 % Average bank angle 13.8 °0.3 ° min to max 49.0 ° 4.4 18.6 °
20 % Average g force 1.02 g-2.30 g min to max 2.47 g 0.95 -2.30 g
Info Average VSI 280 ft/m-6,528 ft/m min to max 3,793 ft/m 1,227 -752 ft/m
Info Average altitude 1,236 ft asl706 ft asl min to max 2,312 ft asl 826 745 ft asl
Info Average pitch angle 5.3 °-28.4 ° min to max 22.8 ° 12.4 -15.7 °
Info Turn coordination 00 min to max 0 0 0
Arrival Final 1 67.01Not counted in the flight scoreApproaching runway 21R at LGAV Athens Eleftherios Venizelos International Airport from 1 nm to 0 nm. Descent from 383 ft agl to 165 ft agl. A decrease of 217 ft in 5 seconds.
ScoreDescriptionStartProfileEnd
79 % Approach angle 21.2 °15.4 ° min to max 29.3 °Target 3.0 ° 15.6 29.3 °
100 % Average speed 164 kn156 kn min to max 168 kn 168 156 kn
46 % Heading variation -0.7 °-1.9 ° min to max 0.0 ° 0.0 -1.9 °
68 % Average bank angle 9.7 °0.7 ° min to max 15.5 ° 15.2 15.5 °
85 % Average g force 1.28 g0.53 g min to max 2.03 g 0.53 1.17 g
Info Average VSI -2,906 ft/m-4,498 ft/m min to max -1,549 ft/m -3,610 -1,549 ft/m
Info Average altitude 248 ft agl165 ft agl min to max 383 ft agl 383 165 ft agl
Info Average pitch angle -7.1 °-17.3 ° min to max -2.4 ° -17.3 -2.4 °

Events

Fail Gear not down
Arrival Landing 19.69Landing on runway 21R at LGAV Athens Eleftherios Venizelos International Airport, runway length 3,202 m. Threshold height at 138 ft agl was excessively over target. Threshold speed was excessively high at 155 kn.
ScoreDescriptionStartProfileEnd
0 % Threshold speed was excessively high at 155 kn. Target 65 kn
51 % Landing and flare profile
0 % Heading variation -3.0 °-3.4 ° min to max -2.3 ° -2.3 -3.4 °
21 % Average bank angle 27.9 °21.8 ° min to max 32.2 ° 21.8 32.2 °
97 % Average g force 1.14 g0.64 g min to max 1.61 g 1.51 0.81 g
Info Average speed 145 kn137 kn min to max 155 kn 155 137 kn
Info Average VSI 16 ft/m-1,151 ft/m min to max 654 ft/m -1,151 119 ft/m
Info Average altitude 155 ft agl137 ft agl min to max 172 ft agl 138 170 ft agl
Info Average pitch angle 3.0 °-0.7 ° min to max 5.6 ° 1.9 -0.7 °
0751502253003754505256006757508259009751,0501,1251,2001,2751,3501,4251,5001,5751,6501,72503570104139174Runway Distance mLanding Height ft0751502253003754505256006757508259009751,0501,1251,2001,2751,3501,4251,5001,5751,6501,725-25-20-15-10-50510152025Runway Distance mRunway Width m
Arrival Final 1 50.00Approaching runway 21R at LGAV Athens Eleftherios Venizelos International Airport from 1 nm to 0 nm. Descent from 169 ft agl to 5 ft agl. A decrease of 164 ft in 8 seconds.
ScoreDescriptionStartProfileEnd
100 % Approach angle 1.1 °0.2 ° min to max 5.3 °Target 3.0 ° 5.3 0.2 °
100 % Average speed 126 kn121 kn min to max 135 kn 134 124 kn
0 % Heading variation -0.9 °-3.1 ° min to max -0.4 ° -3.1 -0.7 °
0 % Average bank angle 28.9 °1.9 ° min to max 48.1 ° 32.5 27.1 °
100 % Average g force 1.16 g0.57 g min to max 1.29 g 0.93 0.57 g
Info Average VSI -984 ft/m-1,298 ft/m min to max -454 ft/m -454 -1,267 ft/m
Info Average altitude 53 ft agl5 ft agl min to max 169 ft agl 169 5 ft agl
Info Average pitch angle -3.5 °-9.8 ° min to max 2.5 ° -1.5 -4.6 °

Events

Fail Gear not down
00.250.50.751050100150Distance to Touchdown NMApproach Height ft00.250.50.751-150-113-75-3803875113150Distance to Touchdown NMApproach Runway Alignment m
Arrival Touchdown 35.95Touchdown distance was good at 397 m. Touchdown speed at 124 kn was excessively fast. Touchdown rate was very heavy at -1,267 ft/m. Runway touchdown position was significantly misaligned by 25.7 m from centreline. Local weather - Temperature 15 °C. Wind 12 kn at 70 °. Crosswind: 7 kn Tailwind: 10 kn.
ScoreDescriptionStartProfileEnd
60 % Touchdown VSI was -1,267 ft/m.
100 % Touchdown distance was 397 mTarget 457 m
0 % Speed at touchdown 124 knTarget 63 kn
17 % Runway alignment max 25.72 m23.51 m right -21.73 -25.72 m
0 % Average bank angle 9.9 °0.7 ° min to max 27.1 ° 27.1 0.8 °
68 % Average g force 1.61 g0.57 g min to max 2.62 g 0.57 1.96 g
100 % Landing Bounce
Info Average speed 114 kn92 kn min to max 124 kn 124 92 kn
Info Average pitch angle -0.2 °-6.8 ° min to max 8.8 ° -4.6 8.8 °
Arrival Rollout 54.26Total landing distance 533 m, 17 % of runway. Runway rollout alignment was excessively misaligned by 50.2 m from centreline.
ScoreDescriptionStartProfileEnd
100 % Landing distance 533 m17 % of runway.
0 % Runway alignment max 50.25 m0.00 m left to 50.25 m right -26.36 -50.25 m
93 % Average g force 1.20 g0.95 g min to max 1.76 g 1.76 1.33 g
Info Average speed 91 kn67 kn min to max 114 kn 114 67 kn
Info Average pitch angle -3.1 °-12.7 ° min to max 9.5 ° 9.4 2.5 °
Info Average bank angle 9.0 °0.0 ° min to max 13.3 ° 0.8 0.0 °
Runway Exit Exiting runway, average speed 2 kn
ScoreDescriptionStartProfileEnd
Info Average speed 55 kn24 kn min to max 65 kn 65 24 kn
Info Average pitch angle 1.8 °-0.0 ° min to max 2.9 ° 2.8 0.2 °
Info Average bank angle 2.3 °1.0 ° min to max 4.0 ° 1.0 4.0 °
Info Average g force 1.11 g0.99 g min to max 1.28 g 1.28 0.99 g

Speed and pitch

From brake release to the end of the climb, against time, then the takeoff point by point.

Lifted off at 84 kt with 7.6° of pitch.

How to read this

Two traces from brake release: the airspeed on top, and below it the pitch, which is how far the nose is above the horizon. The figure at liftoff is the pitch then. The shaded stretch is Climb 3, the part of the climb scored on holding the climb speed.

150 kt10050020°10°0°LIFTOFF7.6° off7° at 35 ftAIRSPEEDPITCH0306090120 sfrom brake release
AirspeedPitchClimb 3

The takeoff, point by point

PointSpeedPitchTime
Brake release0 m 25 kt 10.1° 0 s
Liftoff552 m 84 kt 7.6° 30.4 s
35 ft1,526 m · 18.9 s after liftoff 124 kt 6.8° 49.2 s
End of Climb 35,980 m · 731 ft 116 kt 4.5° 128 s

Takeoff from LGAV 03L

Takeoff roll100.00
698m22 %
Liftoff speed99.13
84kt
Runway alignment0.00
96.94m R
Bounce on takeoff0.00
Yes
Rate of climb90.48
656fpm

Side view from the start of the roll to the end of Climb 3 at 731 ft.

Reached 35 ft with 1,774 m of runway left; then climbing at 450 fpm on average to 731 ft.

How to read this

The takeoff from the side: the height above the runway against the distance along it. The numbers along the runway are the speeds reached at each point. Lifting off in the amber last quarter of the runway costs marks for the roll length. The shaded stretch is Climb 3, scored on its average speed against the target.

1,000 ft500 ft0CLIMB 3THRESHOLDRUNWAY END3040506070KNOTS ALONG THE ROLLLiftoff 84 kt
On the runwayClimbingLast quarter of the runwayClimb 3

Plan view the roll down the 3,202 m runway.

Rolled from the start of the runway, drifted right of the centreline, 30 m at the widest, and lifted off 16 m right, in 6 kn of crosswind from the right. Airborne 14 % of the way down the runway, before the 75 % line.

How to read this

The roll from above, with your left at the top. The line is where the wheels went, and "widest" is the furthest you drifted off the centreline. Lifting off before the amber 75 % line gets full marks for the roll length. The arrow beside the runway is the crosswind, pointing the way the air was moving, so it pushed the aircraft that way.

1,0002,0003,000THRESHOLDLEFT ↑RIGHT ↓CROSS6 kn75 %widest 29.53 m RAirborne 454 m from the threshold
Your trackRunway used in the rollCentreline75 %: lift off before it for full marks
Runway to liftoff 454 m of 3,202 m · 14 %
Takeoff roll, 454 m Left ahead, 2,747 m

The approach to LGAV 21R

The final from 4 nm.

Profile height against the 3° glideslope, with its 2° band in green.

High from 1.7 nm, where the final began, to the threshold (up to 1,480 ft over).

How to read this

Your height above the runway against the distance still to go. The glideslope is the steady descent path to the aiming point, 305 m past the threshold: 3° here, which is about 320 ft for every nautical mile out, crossing the threshold at about 50 ft. The row under the distances is the height it puts you at. Inside the green band your path is drawn green; outside it, amber.

5001,0001,5002,0002,500 ft4 nm3 nm2 nm1 nmTHRON SLOPE1,3301,0106903703° GLIDESLOPE · 2° BAND1,8901,041541
GlideslopeAllowed bandYou, inside the bandYou, outside itYour height there

Plan distance off the extended centreline, your left at the top, with the 1° band. Sideways distances are drawn 3× larger than distances along the final.

Joined 963 m right of the centreline at 1.7 nm, then 101 m left of it from 0.6 nm to the threshold.

How to read this

Looking down from above, flying left to right towards the runway: up the page is left of the centreline, down is right. Sideways distances are stretched so that small drifts show, so a line that looks wild here may be only a few tens of feet. The labels are how far off you were at each distance, amber when outside the band.

4 nm3 nm2 nm1 nmTHR305 m L0305 m RLEFT ↑RIGHT ↓1° BAND732 m R284 m R93 m L
Extended centreline1° either sideYour trackOutside the band

Landing and touchdown on LGAV 21R

Over the threshold

Threshold height0.00
137ft
Threshold speed0.00
154kt
Centreline offset0.00
1.02m R

Touchdown

Past threshold0.00
1,484m
Centreline17.37
25.72m R
Speed0.00
124kt
Touchdown rate59.77
-1,314fpm
Impact68.00
2.62G
BouncesOk
None
The crosswind

6 kt across from the left, which takes about 3° of crab to hold the centreline at 124 kt. Touched down with the nose 5° into wind, 25° of bank.

Wind 070° at 12 kt · 10 kt tail · 6 kt across

How to read this

The wind is the one recorded at the landing, split along the runway (headwind or tailwind) and across it. To hold the centreline in a crosswind the nose points a little into wind - the crab - and is straightened with rudder just before the wheels touch, often with the into-wind wing lowered to stop the drift. These are the nose against the direction you were actually moving, and the wings, at the moment of touchdown. Shown for reading; not marked.

The stop

From 132 kt at touchdown to taxi speed (30 kt) in 6 s, an average deceleration of 0.96 g.

How to read this

Your ground speed from the moment the wheels touched until you were down to taxi speed, against the distance rolled. A steep line is hard braking, a shallow one a long, gentle roll. For scale, an airliner's lowest autobrake setting decelerates at about 0.15 g, a medium one about 0.3 g. Shown for reading; not marked.

0408012060 kt · 146 m30 kt · 188 mtouchdown196 mkt
Your ground speed60 kt and taxi speed

Side view — the last 1,702 m of the approach.

Crossed the threshold at 137 ft, 87 ft above the 50 ft target. Touched down 1,484 m in, 1,179 m past the ideal 305 m.

How to read this

The last stretch of the approach and the touchdown, from the side. The height is stretched so that the last few feet show: 80 ft top to bottom, against 1,702 m across. The dashed line is the ideal, 50 ft over the threshold and down 305 m in. The flare ring is where you began raising the nose, and "descent slowed" is where the sink came off; the figures beside them are the sink rate, pitch and speed at that point.

137 ft over the threshold · target 50 ft FLARE NORMALLY STARTS 11–45 FT 80 ft400 −1,266 fpm · −4.6° nose down · 124 kt Ideal — 50 ft, down at 305 m This flight — 137 ft, down at 1,484 m

Sink and pitch — through the flare, lined up with the side view.

The sink went from 1,180 fpm at 103 ft to 570 fpm at 54 ft, then back up to 1,270 fpm at touchdown. The nose went down 2.8° on the way down.

How to read this

Lined up with the side view above, so a point on one sits under the same point of the other. On top, how fast you were coming down: 0 is level, and −600 is 600 ft a minute down. Below, the pitch. In a flare the nose comes up and the descent slows towards 0. The figure at the touchdown line is your touchdown rate.

SINK RATE FPM · 0 IS LEVEL, LOWER IS COMING DOWN FASTERPITCH · HIGHER IS NOSE UP0−1,000−2,000−10°0°10°touchdown−1,266 fpm at touchdown−4.6° at touchdown
Sink ratePitchFlare began, descent slowedTouchdown

Plan view — the first 1,702 m of the 3,202 m runway, to the same scale as the side view.

Touched down 26 m right of the centreline, and stayed about there down the rollout, 23 m right at the widest.

How to read this

The runway from above, with your left at the top. Touching down inside the green bracket scores full marks for the distance. The shaded part is the rollout, up to where it ended. The arrow beside the runway is the crosswind, pointing the way the air was moving, so it pushed the aircraft that way.

5001,0001,500 THRESHOLD LEFT ↑ RIGHT ↓ CROSS 6 kn FULL SCORE TO 503 M 1,484 m past threshold ROLLOUT ENDED
Your trackTouchdownRolloutCentreline

Touched down 1,484 m past the threshold — beyond the full-score zone. The 2.62 G arrival is the firm side of smooth.

Runway used 1,580 m of 3,202 m · 49 %
In the air over the runway, 1,484 mRollout, 97 m Left over, 1,621 m
Rollout distance100.00
97m15 % used
Rollout alignment0.00
50.25m R

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